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Men Who Hate Women and the Women Who Love Them: When Love Hurts and You Don't Know Why: When Loving Hurts And You Don't Know Why

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Well, it certainly doesn't do feminism any favours - quite the opposite, it undermines credibility - and I think anyone who is genuinely interested in the rights of women should be bothered about that. However, because there is so much excitement and romance going on, the moment of flare-up is easily swept under the rug. This book will explore the links in the chain, from incels to pickup artists, Men Going Their Own Way to Men’s Rights Activists, and how they exist as a kind of living, breathing ecosystem in close, symbiotic relationships with other online communities like white supremacists and trolls. If the questions here reveal a familiar pattern, you may be in love with a misogynist - a man who loves you, yet causes you tremendous pain because he acts as if he hates you. But none of them enjoyed the pained -they joined therapy to get rid of the pain, after all ( note: that also makes Forward’s own sample self-selected, and thus not a great sample to generalize when it comes to the topic of masochism)-.

How was it possible that this was the world he had been living in his whole life without even knowing? By using the Web site, you confirm that you have read, understood, and agreed to be bound by the Terms and Conditions. They never observed (not even the author) that these are things that women feel, too, and that in many cases women don't have any more support groups than the men. If the boy had a strong father figure, he could pull away from the mother, but dominan and suffocating women tend to pair up with more submissive men.Imagine a world in which a vast network of incels and other misogynists are able to operate, virtually undetected. As Bates shows, moreover, sexism and anti-immigrant rhetoric often go hand in hand, via the conspiracy theory that foreigners challenge the rightful supremacy of the white male.

The misogynist is usually not a batterer, but use psychological and verbal forms of control and abuse.

Since total control over another human being is impossible, the misogynist is angry and frustrated most of the time. It is paradoxical, therefore, that the group at one end of the spectrum is responsible for the most acute harm done to the group at the other. Over time, the project grew into a small and generally supportive online community, where men and women shared their fears, frustrations and unhappiness. Some are sucked in through more sinister means, groomed by messages in private gaming chatrooms or on forums frequented by teenage boys. Fascinating, mind-blowing and deeply intelligent book that should be recommend reading for every person on our planet.

Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. The more we understand what shaped us as individuals, the more tools we have to free ourselves from behaviors that no longer work for us. We, both women and men, need to be informed, to admit there is a problem, and work together to change it. I was already familiar with a lot of the ground Bates covers in this book, but she does a good job of putting it together and analyzing it, especially the political and media coverage and how violence against women is minimized and normalized. However, because we know only what we learned as children, as adults we continue to seek out experiences and relationships that offer the comfort of familiarity.Superficial analyses of incel communities have sought to imply that class is the biggest factor driving new recruits to the cause: that this is about poor, white boys being left behind. It was seductive: a world in which nothing was his fault, in which he was an aggrieved martyr, not the privileged loser he felt society painted him as. The destructive and value-taking behavior wasn’t generalized, but very focused towards their partner only.

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